The Ultimate Korean Arcade Part FAQ!!
DISCLAIMER:I have no firsthand experience with these, this FAQ is all compiled from the following threads:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=152923
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=155281
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=151113
The idea behind this was to make a place a newbie could took without digging through threads, and to create a centralized place for this info.
Special thanks to: Laugh, Takahashi, deadfrog, and kowal
The (Good quality, non knockoff) Sticks:
There are three main companies manufacturing sticks. They are Myoungshin, Taeyoung, and Crown.
Myoungshin and Taeyoung make Fanta sticks, but these should not be confused with each other.
While both are branded Fanta, they are two different companies with two different molds. It just so happens that rubber pad a knobs are interchangeable.
In most of these sticks, there are no springs or restrictor gates. Instead there is a piece of rubber put in for resistance.
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Here is an overview of the current parts from each company (credit to kowal):
Myoungshin Fanta
Low Stiffnesss (the rubber in this fanta stick is not very stiff)
This stick feels pretty good. I believe these use high quality Starion microswitches.
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rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0.22kG
TaeYoung Fanta
These are very stiff sticks. It has very good microswitches (Gersung) so it is high quality.
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rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0.5kG
Crown CWL306
This is the most recent Crown model, with a balltop. This balltop is NOT removable.
I'm not sure what microswitches these have.
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rotation = circle
throw = angle - 12 degree; travel - 12mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0.275kG
Crown CWL305 - very low stiffness
This is a very soft stick, and comes with a bat top. It has a square actuator.
Again, I'm not sure what microswitches it has, but I'd assume Gersung.
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rotation = circle w/ square actuator
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 45 degree; hitting 90%
force to engage = 0.175kG
There is also a version of this that uses a spring:
(This is kowal's favorite Crown model)
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rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,2kG
Crown CWL303 - very low stiffness
This used to be a lower quality stick, but due to public complaint, it is now a great stick.
These are used in Tekken 6 machines in Korea.
It has a round actuator and gersung microswitches.
Picture
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 9mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 66%
force to engage = 0.17kG
All sticks should share these specifications (if they use a battop):
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The Buttons:
There are two types of good Korean buttons, the Crown 203A and Crown 203C.
Pictures:
The Crown 203A
The Crown 203C
Both are high quality buttons, the 203A being snap in only, and the 203C supporting both snap in and screw in.
The 203A will work with .110 quick disconnects, but 203C will require soldering directly to the button.
I don't have many technical details about these, but they are high quality, do NOT click like HAPP buttons, but require slightly more pressure to push than Japanese buttons.
In a sense they're in between American and Japanese.
Prebuilts and their Cases:
While any case that the Crown buttons and Crown or Fanta joystick fits into will work, there are a couple of cases to take note of on the market already.
The first family of prebuilt Korean sticks is the Saulabi line.
The Saulabi line has many sticks, including:
The 4K Arcade Stick
The Online White Stick
The Online Black Stick
The SCS-2000 USB Arcade Joystick
and Others.
Website: http://www.isaulabi.com/
These all have the same button layout, and all fit Korean parts.
Most Saulabis are relatively inexpensive, making them great to gut and use as a case for better parts.
The stock parts include:
10x Knockoff Crown buttons (bad!!)
These buttons are very loud and break easily
The buttons also feel hollow
and 1 x Myoungshin Fanta Joystick
While the Myoungshin Fantas that Laugh sell are great, the ones Saulabi uses are not.
They are most likely more inexpensive, budget versions.
Their diagonals are hard to hit, and the stick is generally hard to use and questionable.
If you want to use a Saulabi, I'd reccomend modding it.
Laugh has made a guide, available here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=155281
When modding it, you can also use a non-standard PCB like the Cthulhu or the Madcatz 360 USB... you could even dual mod it!
Another place you can find sticks is HERE: http://www.stick.pe.kr/shop/
This site sells wooden cases, which also use knockoff parts. Like the Saulabi, they're nice to mod.
Custom Cases:
Special thanks to deadfrog and laugh for this section
In Korean arcades, the most common type of machine is The Crown 203 Cabinet.
These cabinets generally use Fanta sticks and Crown 203A buttons.
Using this info, you should be able to replicate this layout.
These are the measurements for the top panel:
Looking down from above
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Looking up from underneath
![koreanlayoutflippedhx3.th.png]()
These images are to scale, 1:1
In the cabinet, there is a slight slope on the panel. It is up to you whether to add it or not.
The hole for the stick should be 34mm.
The button holes should be 28 mm.
The panel itself should be about 11 mm thick to support Crown 203A buttons.
If you want to use the screw ins, then the panel should be 13 mm thick.
The stick should be bottom mounted with a 13mm thick panel, so the black circle can stick up 2mm above the top of the panel.
If you're using the 203A snap ins, then you must use an extra small 2 mm piece of material to get the button at the correct height..
For more info, please see deadfrog's post linked in the references section.
FAQs:
Q: Do Crown and the Fantas use the same mounting plate?
A: All korean sticks have the same mounting plate. There might be minor differences, but those are negligible.
Q: What about Cherry microswitches?
A: The general consensus seems to be that they're too soft
Q: What is the best Korean Stick?
A: Again, the general consensus is that the fanta sticks are better, but Crown has a very competitive line, and suits some people better. In deciding between fanta sticks, determine how much resistance you want and decide accordingly.
Q: Where can I get these parts?
A: The best place to go right now is Laugh. He's been selling Korean parts on SRK for a while. I can personally vouch for him, having completed a successful transaction:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174859
Q: Can you put a Korean Stick in a Japanese case?
A: It would require a lot of effort. It would be better to make a Korean case for it.
The Korean sticks need more depth, the panel thickness needed is greater for Korean sticks, and Korean buttons are slightly smaller
Q: What size Quick Disconnects do the Crown buttons use?
A: Only the Crown 203As use them. Their size is .110, just like the Sanwa buttons.
Q: Where does the PCB go in the Saulabi case?
A: There is no set place in the case for the PCB. It is free hanging. If you want, you could add a place to mount it yourself.
If you want to use the standard PCB, if you solder the board to the buttons, that should keep it in place.
Additional References:
Kowal's youtube channel - has a video of each of the sticks, and will give you an idea of how stiff they are:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kkowal97&view=videos
Deadfrog's post about making a custom case layout:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5357054&postcount=76
DISCLAIMER:I have no firsthand experience with these, this FAQ is all compiled from the following threads:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=152923
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=155281
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=151113
The idea behind this was to make a place a newbie could took without digging through threads, and to create a centralized place for this info.
Special thanks to: Laugh, Takahashi, deadfrog, and kowal
The (Good quality, non knockoff) Sticks:
There are three main companies manufacturing sticks. They are Myoungshin, Taeyoung, and Crown.
Myoungshin and Taeyoung make Fanta sticks, but these should not be confused with each other.
While both are branded Fanta, they are two different companies with two different molds. It just so happens that rubber pad a knobs are interchangeable.
In most of these sticks, there are no springs or restrictor gates. Instead there is a piece of rubber put in for resistance.
Here is an overview of the current parts from each company (credit to kowal):
Myoungshin Fanta
Low Stiffnesss (the rubber in this fanta stick is not very stiff)
This stick feels pretty good. I believe these use high quality Starion microswitches.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0.22kG
TaeYoung Fanta
These are very stiff sticks. It has very good microswitches (Gersung) so it is high quality.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0.5kG
Crown CWL306
This is the most recent Crown model, with a balltop. This balltop is NOT removable.
I'm not sure what microswitches these have.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 12 degree; travel - 12mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0.275kG
Crown CWL305 - very low stiffness
This is a very soft stick, and comes with a bat top. It has a square actuator.
Again, I'm not sure what microswitches it has, but I'd assume Gersung.
rotation = circle w/ square actuator
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 45 degree; hitting 90%
force to engage = 0.175kG
There is also a version of this that uses a spring:
(This is kowal's favorite Crown model)
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,2kG
Crown CWL303 - very low stiffness
This used to be a lower quality stick, but due to public complaint, it is now a great stick.
These are used in Tekken 6 machines in Korea.
It has a round actuator and gersung microswitches.
Picture
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 9mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 66%
force to engage = 0.17kG
All sticks should share these specifications (if they use a battop):
The Buttons:
There are two types of good Korean buttons, the Crown 203A and Crown 203C.
Pictures:
The Crown 203A
The Crown 203C
Both are high quality buttons, the 203A being snap in only, and the 203C supporting both snap in and screw in.
The 203A will work with .110 quick disconnects, but 203C will require soldering directly to the button.
I don't have many technical details about these, but they are high quality, do NOT click like HAPP buttons, but require slightly more pressure to push than Japanese buttons.
In a sense they're in between American and Japanese.
Prebuilts and their Cases:
While any case that the Crown buttons and Crown or Fanta joystick fits into will work, there are a couple of cases to take note of on the market already.
The first family of prebuilt Korean sticks is the Saulabi line.
The Saulabi line has many sticks, including:
The 4K Arcade Stick
The Online White Stick
The Online Black Stick
The SCS-2000 USB Arcade Joystick
and Others.
Website: http://www.isaulabi.com/
These all have the same button layout, and all fit Korean parts.
Most Saulabis are relatively inexpensive, making them great to gut and use as a case for better parts.
The stock parts include:
10x Knockoff Crown buttons (bad!!)
These buttons are very loud and break easily
The buttons also feel hollow
and 1 x Myoungshin Fanta Joystick
While the Myoungshin Fantas that Laugh sell are great, the ones Saulabi uses are not.
They are most likely more inexpensive, budget versions.
Their diagonals are hard to hit, and the stick is generally hard to use and questionable.
If you want to use a Saulabi, I'd reccomend modding it.
Laugh has made a guide, available here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=155281
When modding it, you can also use a non-standard PCB like the Cthulhu or the Madcatz 360 USB... you could even dual mod it!
Another place you can find sticks is HERE: http://www.stick.pe.kr/shop/
This site sells wooden cases, which also use knockoff parts. Like the Saulabi, they're nice to mod.
Custom Cases:
Special thanks to deadfrog and laugh for this section
In Korean arcades, the most common type of machine is The Crown 203 Cabinet.
These cabinets generally use Fanta sticks and Crown 203A buttons.
Using this info, you should be able to replicate this layout.
These are the measurements for the top panel:
Looking down from above
Looking up from underneath
These images are to scale, 1:1
In the cabinet, there is a slight slope on the panel. It is up to you whether to add it or not.
The hole for the stick should be 34mm.
The button holes should be 28 mm.
The panel itself should be about 11 mm thick to support Crown 203A buttons.
If you want to use the screw ins, then the panel should be 13 mm thick.
The stick should be bottom mounted with a 13mm thick panel, so the black circle can stick up 2mm above the top of the panel.
If you're using the 203A snap ins, then you must use an extra small 2 mm piece of material to get the button at the correct height..
deadfrog, post: 1901493 wrote:This will help you position the layout for a single-player arcade stick...
For more info, please see deadfrog's post linked in the references section.
FAQs:
Q: Do Crown and the Fantas use the same mounting plate?
A: All korean sticks have the same mounting plate. There might be minor differences, but those are negligible.
Q: What about Cherry microswitches?
A: The general consensus seems to be that they're too soft
Q: What is the best Korean Stick?
A: Again, the general consensus is that the fanta sticks are better, but Crown has a very competitive line, and suits some people better. In deciding between fanta sticks, determine how much resistance you want and decide accordingly.
Q: Where can I get these parts?
A: The best place to go right now is Laugh. He's been selling Korean parts on SRK for a while. I can personally vouch for him, having completed a successful transaction:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174859
Q: Can you put a Korean Stick in a Japanese case?
A: It would require a lot of effort. It would be better to make a Korean case for it.
The Korean sticks need more depth, the panel thickness needed is greater for Korean sticks, and Korean buttons are slightly smaller
Q: What size Quick Disconnects do the Crown buttons use?
A: Only the Crown 203As use them. Their size is .110, just like the Sanwa buttons.
Q: Where does the PCB go in the Saulabi case?
A: There is no set place in the case for the PCB. It is free hanging. If you want, you could add a place to mount it yourself.
If you want to use the standard PCB, if you solder the board to the buttons, that should keep it in place.
Additional References:
Kowal's youtube channel - has a video of each of the sticks, and will give you an idea of how stiff they are:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kkowal97&view=videos
Deadfrog's post about making a custom case layout:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5357054&postcount=76